Ruins (Pathfinder #2) 
The rhetoric was not my only problem with this book. This book picks up after the events in Pathfinder. Our troop of heroes has passed through the wall and find themselves in a different world. They have to figure out what is going on in each of the wallfolds they visit and figure out what to do about the visitors from earth who are on their way. They are exploring their time shifting/traveling powers and becoming stronger. However, they are also the biggest bunch of whiny babies I have ever read. I found that I couldn't stand a single one of them. It is nothing but jealousy, envy, impetuousness, struggling for power for this group. No one acts as they should; they go back and forth on their feelings for each other. There are constant struggles to be the top dog of the group. These people were supposed to be friends; they came through some terrible events and yet all the seemed to care about was themselves. I didn't find any redeeming qualities in these characters and it really wasn't until the last few pages that they actually started working together. I also had a huge problem with how this was written. There is a lot of exposition in this book and not a lot of dialog. And the dialog is often filled with pages of exposition. A character will speak and then the other character will take two pages analyzing and griping about what was said before finally responding. Seriously! It got old really fast.
I am a fan of Card's work. I loved Ender's Game and actually want to reread it again. But I think his writing is uneven across books. He gets a little too wrapped up in getting his "message" out that he forgets to just write a good story.
Oh my I don't know how I read this whole book but I did, and to put it plainly is sucks... I enjoyed Pathfinder #1... but this book was just bad...Whats wrong with it you ask...First the characters whine way to much, and they don't stop whining... and all they do is whine entire chapters are filled with nothing but whiningSecond the characters become unlikable... because of the whining... Third the preaching... wow there are pages and pages of the preaching about the authors opinion... and some
I really liked to first book so I was looking forward to getting into the second book in the series.But where the first book moves a long at a good pace and you really come like the characters, the second book comes to a stand still and characters become annoying and petty.The book has its moments, and there are some redeeming qualities towards the end, but not close to the enjoyment of the first book.

I loved it! The dialogue was great!
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are
As much as I disliked pathfinder, I actually rather enjoyed ruins. To me, the struggle to get through pathfinder seemingly was in order to introduce ruins. The world building and theory building was mainly to allow ruins to flow freely, which it did. I finally began to grasp exactly how the time travel aspects worked, and that meant I was able to engage with the characters and this made the novel rather enjoyable. The uniqueness of the said world, and the characters involved make this series an
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are
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Hardcover | Pages: 530 pages Rating: 3.89 | 9881 Users | 825 Reviews

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| Title | : | Ruins (Pathfinder #2) |
| Author | : | Orson Scott Card |
| Book Format | : | Hardcover |
| Book Edition | : | Deluxe Edition |
| Pages | : | Pages: 530 pages |
| Published | : | October 30th 2012 by Simon Pulse (first published January 1st 2012) |
| Categories | : | Fantasy. Science Fiction. Young Adult. Fiction. Science Fiction Fantasy. Time Travel. Audiobook |
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Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are his views that he is pushing on the reader. It takes away from the enjoyment of reading. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I have no problem with them writing about those opinions and views even if they differ from my own. However, I don't expect them to be pushed on me in a sci-fi book. If I wanted to read about politics and religion I would, but I wanted something else from Ruins.The rhetoric was not my only problem with this book. This book picks up after the events in Pathfinder. Our troop of heroes has passed through the wall and find themselves in a different world. They have to figure out what is going on in each of the wallfolds they visit and figure out what to do about the visitors from earth who are on their way. They are exploring their time shifting/traveling powers and becoming stronger. However, they are also the biggest bunch of whiny babies I have ever read. I found that I couldn't stand a single one of them. It is nothing but jealousy, envy, impetuousness, struggling for power for this group. No one acts as they should; they go back and forth on their feelings for each other. There are constant struggles to be the top dog of the group. These people were supposed to be friends; they came through some terrible events and yet all the seemed to care about was themselves. I didn't find any redeeming qualities in these characters and it really wasn't until the last few pages that they actually started working together. I also had a huge problem with how this was written. There is a lot of exposition in this book and not a lot of dialog. And the dialog is often filled with pages of exposition. A character will speak and then the other character will take two pages analyzing and griping about what was said before finally responding. Seriously! It got old really fast.
I am a fan of Card's work. I loved Ender's Game and actually want to reread it again. But I think his writing is uneven across books. He gets a little too wrapped up in getting his "message" out that he forgets to just write a good story.
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| Original Title: | Ruins |
| ISBN: | 1416991778 (ISBN13: 9781416991779) |
| Edition Language: | English |
| Series: | Pathfinder #2 |
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Ratings: 3.89 From 9881 Users | 825 ReviewsJudge Regarding Books Ruins (Pathfinder #2)
A bit of a disappointment after Pathfinder (perhaps I rate it lower than deserved because of the disappointment). Feels like a second book in a trilogy - not much really happens, the end is vague, and there is too much bickering amongst the characters. Hopefully the next book in the series will also follow the standard trilogy pattern and provide more excitement and closure. Although I generally enjoy a multi-character personal narrative with views into their internal thought process, somehow itOh my I don't know how I read this whole book but I did, and to put it plainly is sucks... I enjoyed Pathfinder #1... but this book was just bad...Whats wrong with it you ask...First the characters whine way to much, and they don't stop whining... and all they do is whine entire chapters are filled with nothing but whiningSecond the characters become unlikable... because of the whining... Third the preaching... wow there are pages and pages of the preaching about the authors opinion... and some
I really liked to first book so I was looking forward to getting into the second book in the series.But where the first book moves a long at a good pace and you really come like the characters, the second book comes to a stand still and characters become annoying and petty.The book has its moments, and there are some redeeming qualities towards the end, but not close to the enjoyment of the first book.

I loved it! The dialogue was great!
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are
As much as I disliked pathfinder, I actually rather enjoyed ruins. To me, the struggle to get through pathfinder seemingly was in order to introduce ruins. The world building and theory building was mainly to allow ruins to flow freely, which it did. I finally began to grasp exactly how the time travel aspects worked, and that meant I was able to engage with the characters and this made the novel rather enjoyable. The uniqueness of the said world, and the characters involved make this series an
Oof, this was a tough one. I actually forced myself to finish this after putting it down day after day. I remember really enjoy Pathfinder, but this one was a clunker. I think Orson Scott Card is a brilliant writer but sometimes brilliance does not translate well on the page. And sometimes writer's views on things get a little heavy handed. This is one such book. Card has put a lot of political and religious rhetoric into this book. Sure he weaves it into the story, but you can tell these are


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